lew's signature has all those loops. they are actually zeros and that's how much he's going to add to our debt. >> you don't know that for sure. we're going to have that debate on the debt ceiling in the next month. you don't think we're going to see any spending cuts? >> we have been inculcated throughout our history that they will increase the debt ceiling without ever addressing the real problem which is, correct, 100%, maria, it is spending. >> unless the market forces the hand, too, because one thing our leaders do respond to is the stock market, whereas in the early '80s it was the bond vigilantes that ruled the root i think these guys get terrified when the stock market starts going down because they -- you know, from the way they calibrate things, you don't have bonds to do it so now you have the stock market. >> if you get money supply growing at 12% and bonds are in the biggest bubble in the history of mankind, the money is going to go into stocks. that's the path of least resistance. >> maria, what you have to